Question for breeders.

[angeldane]

Wondering would you want to take back a puppy you had sold to someone if you believed buyer or someone in their life was abusive towards the dog. Would you pay or return money to the buyer for the dog if you felt as though it was in the wrong home?

[Danewillow]

I was interested to see if any breeders responded to this. I'm not a breeder but IMO, a good breeder takes their puppies back no matter what. They chose this home so they are responsible for where the puppy went.

[Selestine]

Don't most breeder contracts allow the breeder to retake possession of the dog (without buying him/her) in cases of abuse?

[angeldane]

Originally Posted by Selestine

Don't most breeder contracts allow the breeder to retake possession of the dog (without buying him/her) in cases of abuse?

I'd hope so but abuse can be subjective and unless a judge or humane officer sites someone for abuse the breeder could not take the dog based on their opinion alone at least legally.

[dolmod]

I know several breeders that have repossessed (for lack of a better word) danes from their breedings from owners.

[Belisma]

Most contracts state that if the dog were to come back either by decision of the owner or repo no money is to be exchanged.

[Pops2]

but not all states consider breeder repo clauses valid. many states consider the breeder's rights end once the pup is paid for. think about it even in states that do enforce them they would never allow you to put a clause in a car sale contract to repo it if you don't like the way the new owner takes care of it. like it or not animals are still property in most states.

[WeLoveOur7Dogs]

Originally Posted by dolmod

I know several breeders that have repossessed (for lack of a better word) danes from their breedings from owners.

I do too.

[ouesi]

Originally Posted by angeldane

Wondering would you want to take back a puppy you had sold to someone if you believed buyer or someone in their life was abusive towards the dog. Would you pay or return money to the buyer for the dog if you felt as though it was in the wrong home?

Originally Posted by angeldane

I'd hope so but abuse can be subjective and unless a judge or humane officer sites someone for abuse the breeder could not take the dog based on their opinion alone at least legally.

So what are you asking? Would a breeder take back a dog for what they felt was abuse even though its not legaly abuse?

I think its an interesting question... I've brought it up before, asking how far would you go in the name of training and I think you'll find its not so easy to define that clear cut line that crosses over in to abuse.

I mean, even something as seemingly obvious as a cop kicking his K9 to death can be questioned. No, I'm not kidding. http://cbs4.com/local/Miami.Dade.Police.2.1831230.html
I wonder, how does that breeder feel about selling any more dogs to that department, or even that training facility. Or was it the breeder who was also the trainer who instructed this guy that kicking was an acceptable way to correct.

Personally I too would like to know how breeders would handle a situation where they found out about one of their dogs and the conditions fell in to that "grey" area - not legally abuse per se, but not exactly defensible either.

[Nat_]

I took back a puppy (12 weeks) that I suspected was not being treated well. I returned their money and took her back, she is now in a great home and has worked thru her issues of being scared of men from this. A vet concluded by xray that she had probably been kicked, there were issues with her hind leg for awhile but she is all better now.